I recently got baptised (at a Baptist Church, where they do adult baptism rather than soon after birth), and I gave a little speech, which I thought people might be interested in …
The reason I’m here today is because I have a relationship
with God. Until I started to think about what I would say
today, I would have hesitated to say that, because I don’t
have `conversations’ with him, I don’t hear his voice out
loud or in my head, I don’t see him, I don’t feel him. So
how can I say I have a relationship with him?
Well certainly, because I don’t do all those things, it’s
not like my relationships with other people, but it really
is true that God is a person, and I `know’ him (a bit),
and he knows me. How do I know this? Well, really, it’s
because of a particular low point in the relationship.
I’ve been a Christian for longer than I can remember, except
for a brief period when I was a teenager. Basically, I’ve
always been pretty sure God existed. But about 2 years ago,
I started to feel that God had drawn away from me. I felt
dry and alone. It’s hard to describe it in any more detail
except to say that I couldn’t feel God near me. This was
particularly weird as I hadn’t realised that I had been
able to feel him before.
This was an extremely hard experience – I was suddenly missing
something I had depended on for my whole life without knowing
it. I felt bitter and angry with God, although for some
reason I never doubted his existence.
A week or so ago, I was wondering what to say today and I
knew I wanted to say something about this dry time, but
I also wanted to talk about what being a Christian is. I
thought to myself that the `right answer’ to the question
`what is a Christian?’ is someone who has a relationship
with God, but that I couldn’t really say that with confidence.
Suddenly it struck me that I could: in fact, how could I
deny this relationship when I so obviously missed it when
it changed? This time of feeling far from God proves to
me not only that he exists, but also that I rely on him
in a way I never recognised before.
So what was he doing? Why did he make me so unhappy by drawing
away from me? By the way, I do believe that he drew away
from me rather than the other way round: not that I didn’t
do anything wrong (far from it!) but I did seek him desperately
and often, and couldn’t find him.
Well, here’s a thought I had: I knew some people once whose
16 year old daughter got pregnant, and they made the decision
to make her move out of home. They didn’t do this to punish
her, but to give her the best possible chance of becoming
a good mother to her child, instead of passing the buck
to her parents and relying on them to support her.
It doesn’t matter whether you think this was a good decision
or not (in fact she is now a very good mother!): I think
that what God was doing with me was a similar thing – he
had to push me into a very uncomfortable place for reasons
I couldn’t understand at all. Can you imagine how those
parents felt? I imagine God felt pretty bad too, but he
must have had his reasons.
Now the neat conclusion to this would be to say that this
dry feeling went away, and now everything is alright, and
I understand what God was doing. But, it’s not quite that
simple. For a start, I haven’t got the whole feeling of
God’s presence back – perhaps a little bit, but not like
there used to be. I don’t think he’s ever going to give
it back – that’s something I’m going to have to live without.
What’s more, I wouldn’t say that I’m fully through the process
of forgiving him for the hurt I felt.
I’m not here because I’ve got a perfect relationship with
God, but because I haven’t. If I had a perfect relationship
with God I wouldn’t need saving, which is what baptism is
a symbol of. What I know is that I want to be with God,
and I also know that he wants to be with me. What God asks
of me is that I seek him – that’s what I’m doing today,
and every day – trying to get near him because I love him,
but acknowledging that it’s a lifelong task. I chose the
song we sang `By your side’ because
it says `by your side I would stay’ not `by your side I
am staying’: it expresses that same desire for closeness
to God, which is sometimes frustrated.
I chose the reading (Isaiah 49:15-16) because it makes the
point that God feels this frustration just as much as we
do. He desperately wants to be with us, to be friends with
all of us: it hurts him to be apart from us. It hurts him
so much that he died, actually died, in order to make it
possible for us to be close to him, if we choose to accept
Thanks for sharing that mate – it was thoughtful and I reckon came from a heart of wanting to encourage others who may feel like you.
Um, seeing as you are willing to look at things deeply, and seem to love the scriptures, I am going to ask two questions which initially may rock your faith incredibly, but as with your story, will then strengthen your faith totally – because it will be based on the unchanging and solid Word of God (which is where our faith originates. Romans 10v17).
You said that baptism is a “symbol” of being saved. Where does it say that in the Bible? (Acts 17v10-12)
And also, Andy, you have mentioned “feeling” in a lot of your references to your relationship with God.
Where does the Bible speak about us needing to FEEL close to God? (My fear is that you will base your relationship with God on emotions, which are naturally unstable in any person – hence you would never grasp a constant relationship with God based on the assurance given in the scriptures.)
Thank you for taking the time to send this comment. In the spirit of this site `welcoming dissenting voices’ I’m going to disagree with you on a couple of things.
My faith doesn’t originate from the Bible. It originates from `hearing the message’ (as it says in Rom 10v17) from some very cool people. But this is a minor point. The Bible has undoubtedly helped me a lot.
I don’t see what Acts 17v10-12 has to do with anything. Do you have a typo or am I missing something?
I believe that baptism is a symbol of being saved. I certainly don’t think it’s necessary to be saved e.g. Abraham wasn’t baptised, but received righteousness by faith (Rom 4v13).
Yes, I talked a lot about feelings, and this site is all about feelings. It’s about expressing our feelings honestly in front of each other and God. Why? Because it is my opinion that the single biggest mistake we are making as Christians today, especially young people (students, 20s etc) is that we pretend we’re ok.
I believe that the fundamentally true fact that “feelings don’t matter” has been distorted to become “you shouldn’t have feelings”. So this truth has become a curse on people like me who go on having feelings, sometimes bad feelings, about God and have been made to feel that if only they were stoical enough about them their life would sort itself out.
Check out Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses (especially Moses!), David, Solomon, Jeremiah, Job, all the prophets, loads more, and Jesus – all of these had strong, emotional relationships with God. Why did God like Abraham so much? Maybe because when God told him to do something, he kicked up a fuss and complained instead of saying “yes, yes, God I’ll do what you say,” with no intention of doing it, or not even listening.
So I stand by my emphasis on feelings. We’ve had too much ignoring of them and I’m standing up and saying, “I love God and this often makes me unhappy as well as happy. That’s what a relationship is.”
I hope you don’t mind my tone, Gav, it’s great to hear from you and no doubt I’m wrong about everything I’ve said. Welcome to our little community!
You are spot on about feelings . . . in fact who am I trying to kid: most of my conversations about my relationship with God start with “I feel” or “I don’t feel”.
This is what I love about this site – we can write our feelings and opinions, and be open to be wrong. Cool.
Um, about the other things though . . .
You said, “I don’t see what Acts 17v10-12 has to do with anything. Do you have a typo or am I missing something?”
No typo there, just ambiguity! 🙂
What I was implying, was that we should base what we believe on the scriptures, as the example of the Berean’s shows. I wanted to make sure that as this conversation goes on, we will try to base what we say on what the Bible teaches, not what other people have said.
You also said, “I believe that baptism is a symbol of being saved. I certainly don’t think it’s necessary to be saved e.g. Abraham wasn’t baptised, but received righteousness by faith (Rom 4v13). “
How does the Bible say we can be saved? How did the people in the book of Acts become Christians?
Looking forward to hear from you.
We’re saved by God saving us, not by what we do.
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